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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.xenix.misc,comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Communications Software nightmare
Date: 14 Nov 1997 16:49:03 GMT
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In article <01bcf072$e594bf40$68e464ce@brentfid>,
Brent Fidler <brentfid@twave.net> wrote:
: I know very little/next to nothing about unix or xenix, but have been
: handed the responsibilty for our company's five PC's which use a
: manufacturing system that is running on xenix. We are using modems, phone
: lines, and Kermit (a dial up connection) to transfer our critical data from
: or five factories to our corporate offices. We are having many problems
: with this. Our mfg. systems software vendor is telling me that kermit
: sucks and is the root of a lot of our problems.
:
It always amazes me, the extent to which Kermit is discussed and judged
without ever looking at the definitive source of information, or asking the
people who made it, and how often the judgments are based on ancient and/or
defective third-party implementations, without ever checking to see if there
are newer or better ones.
Kermit protocol and software comes from the Kermit Project at Columbia
University:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
The Kermit software for Xenix is C-Kermit 6.0:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html
It is actively developed, documented, and supported. If you have trouble
with it, you can get help by reading the manual:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html
or sending email to:
kermit-support@columbia.edu
or by looking through our FAQ:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.html
ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.txt
or by posting to:
comp.protocols.kermit.misc
or by calling our help desk, and in numerous other ways.
: I belive this because we can use Windows based Telix on a PC and log in and
: transfer files all day long without any problems. I am told that Kermit is
: just not robust enough to effeciently and consistently log in and transfer
: files. I am told its protocols are too sensitive to things such as line
: noise.
:
This is, of course, not only untrue, but it is the opposite of the truth.
Kermit is the *most* robust of the well-known protocols when implemented
properly. However, it is rarely -- if ever -- implemented properly or well
in third-party commercial or shareware products, despite the fact that the
specification is published for all to see. If you use real Kermit software
from the Kermit Project on both ends of your connection, you'll have robust
and fast file transfers, you can automate everything with its cross-
platform scripting language, and you'll get good support if you have problems
or questions.
Frank da Cruz
The Kermit Project
Columbia University